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Most of the following text was copied from http://www.sl4.org/wiki/WikiEtiquette , by [[Peer Infinity]].
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*This wiki is generally for short summary-descriptions of frequently referenced concepts, and lists of links to the relevant posts on [[LW]]. Original content and long arguments should go in LW blog posts and the associated comment threads. The user is intended to bounce back and forth between the blog and the wiki, clicking on wiki links for quick explanations of concepts used in blog posts, and then digging further into the blog or wiki if not satisfied. The short summaries may freely refer to other concepts on the Wiki.
  
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*Wiki pages corresponding to individual articles or blog posts shouldn't generally be created. If an article introduces a relevant concept, a wiki page describing that concept and linking to the article may be created, but not a page for the article itself.
  
*We'll probably work out our Wiki etiquette as we go along.  But I do have at least one suggestion to start with: sign your name to personal or controversial opinions!  Please!  In fact, please sign your name to everything, if at all possible.  I know this might be hard to remember.  But <i>especially</i> remember this for personal or controversial opinions.  If you wish to remain anonymous, do NOT sign yourself as [[Anonymous]].  Pick a pseudonym and stick with it!  If you leave unlabeled opinions, they may be deleted, since no one cared about them enough to sign.  Anonymous posts lacking a definite unique pseudonym should be considered harmful. -- [[Peer Infinity]]
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*Original content that is best built by many users editing it can be an exception to the above rule, appearing on the Wiki instead of the blog - for example, a collaboratively edited poem, or a long list of posts with summaries in chronological order.
  
**But most of the pages on this wiki are just summarizing content from posts at [[Less Wrong]] and [[Overcoming Bias]]. Do we really need to sign our summaries of content that was written by someone else?  It would probably make more sense for this wiki's layout to resemble wikipedia, rather than the [[SL4 Wiki]]. -- [[Peer Infinity]]
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*Our version of "notability" is how often a concept is referenced. If a concept is referenced in only one place then it does not need a wiki entry.
  
*Don't intersperse general questions about Wiki usage on pages you edit.  Post them at the appropriate page - either [[How We Can Use This Wiki]], [[Wiki Etiquette]], or [[Wiki Questions]]. -- [[Peer Infinity]]
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*To guard against [[Wikipedia:Bit rot|bit rot]], wiki pages should be kept in a relatively good form at all times, even at [[:Category:Article stubs|stub]] stage. Don't leave unorganized content or poorly researched statements in the pages.
  
*Add descriptions to links if it can't be determined by context, e.g., in a directory listing; this saves time by not making a user <i>follow</i> a link to find out what it's for. -- [[Peer Infinity]]
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*When linking to a series of relevant blog posts, a description (one sentence to one paragraph) of what relevant material the user can expect to find, will be helpful - if you see a list of relevant posts with no summaries, feel free to add them.
  
*Any user of this Wiki is allowed to make obvious corrections to any other user's spelling and grammar. -- [[Peer Infinity]]
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*Don't intersperse general questions about Wiki usage on pages you edit.  Post them at the appropriate page - the [[Lesswrongwiki:Projects and Requests|Projects and Requests]], or talk pages of [[Lesswrongwiki:Community Portal|Community Portal]], '''Etiquette''', and [[FAQ]].
  
*Any user is allowed to make existing words on any page into Wiki links, by using the [ [ ] ] marks, to create a link to a page that already exists or is expected to exist eventually, as long as this link is in context.  For example, changing "Anthropic Principle" to "[[Anthropic Principle]]", changing "CFAI" to "[[CFAI]]", or changing "#sl4" to "[http://sl4.org/chat/ #sl4]".  If the word or phrase is used several times on a page, only the first occurrence should be made into a link. -- [[Peer Infinity]]
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*Any user of this Wiki can make obvious corrections to any other user's spelling and grammar, or to make existing words on any page into Wiki links, by using the '''<nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki>''' marks, pointing to a page that already exists or is expected to exist eventually.
  
*Any user may categorize any page by listing the names of the appropriate [[Category]] at the bottom of the page. See this page for an example. -- [[Peer Infinity]]
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*Any user may categorize any page by listing the names of the appropriate [[Categories|Category]] at the bottom of the page.
  
*If there is a disagreement about which categories a page fits in, or about anything else related to a Wiki page, the disagreement can be discussed in the page's "discussion" page. The disputed categories should be removed from that list until the disagreement is resolved.  --[[Peer Infinity]]
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*If there is a disagreement about which categories a page fits in, or about anything else related to a Wiki page, the disagreement can be discussed in the page's "talk" page. If unresolved, please [[Lesswrongwiki:Projects and Requests|contact an administrator]] to mediate or make a note on [[Lesswrongwiki:Disputes]]. A dispute can potentially be escalated to a blog post.
  
*Any user may add a new category to the list of [[Categories]]. --[[Peer Infinity]]
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==See also==
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*[[Help:User Guide]].
  
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[[Category:Help]]
 
 
*Any user may move a page that they believe should be a [[Personal Wiki Page]] (rather than an [[Official Wiki Page]]) to a subpage of the author's [[User Page]], and replace the original page with a link to the new page.  Also, the user who moved the page should indicate their name and the date the page was moved at the bottom of the new page, after a divider ("<nowiki>----</nowiki>").  For example, "This page was moved from [[Universal Morality]] by [[Peer Infinity]] on May 21, 2005"
 
 
 
*If the original author agrees that the page should be a [[Personal Wiki Page]], then they should add a link to the page in their [[User Page]]
 
 
 
*If the author does not agree that the page should be a [[Personal Wiki Page]], then they can set up a poll to see what the other users think.  For example: "The following users believe this page should be an [[Official Wiki Page]]: [[Marc Geddes]]; The following users believe this page should be a [[Personal Wiki Page]]: [[Peer Infinity]]"  If more people think that the page should be an [[Official Wiki Page]], then the page should be moved back to its original location, but the list of people who think the page should be a [[Personal Wiki Page]] should be left at the end of the page.
 
 
 
--[[Peer Infinity]]
 
 
 
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One thing that we don't seem to have reached a consensus about is our policy about redirect pages.  Personally, I find redirect pages to be very useful.  Since there is no way to disable MediaWiki's case-sensitivity, if you accidentally get the capitalization wrong when trying to link to another wiki page, the link will not lead to the page you wanted to link to, but will instead link to a page with different capitalization.  There are two main ways to deal with this problem:
 
 
 
1) Whenever a link is created with incorrect capitalization, just make a redirect page that links to the correctly capitalized page.
 
*Advantages:
 
**making the redirect pages is easy
 
**MediaWiki automatically makes a redirect page when you move a page to correct its capitalization
 
**If someone else makes the same capitalization error, there is already a redirect page to point to the correctly capitalized page
 
*Disadvantages:
 
**This can create a lot of redirect pages, which can make the [[Special:AllPages]] list look cluttered.
 
**This can create confusion about which version of the page is the real version, and which versions are just redirects.  This can naturally lead to not caring which page is the real version, and just letting the redirects sort it out
 
 
 
2) Whenever a link is created with incorrect capitalization, correct the link's capitalization.  Whenever a page is created with incorrect capitalization, move the page, correct any links to the incorrectly capitalized page, and delete the redirect page that was automatically created by the move page tool
 
*Advantages:
 
**There is always only one version of each page, with the correct capitalization - unless a duplicate page was created, and the duplicate page went unnoticed
 
**This reduces the number of redirect pages, and makes the [[Special:AllPages]] list look cleaner.
 
*Disadvantages:
 
**This is more work than just making a redirect page to point to the correctly capitalized page
 
**This needs to be redone for every single capitalization error
 
 
 
There is also a third option:  let each wiki editor use whichever method they prefer.  Though this may lead to a time-wasting tug-of-war.
 
 
 
 
 
So far, it looks like we have been attempting to use option 2.  Several links with incorrect capitalization were already created, and the pages with incorrect capitalization were deleted.  Even the redirect pages that were created automatically by MediaWiki's Move Page tool were deleted.  Perhaps we should vote on which method we want to make this wiki's official policy.
 
 
 
--[[Peer Infinity]]
 
 
 
People who vote for option 1:
 
 
 
#[[Peer Infinity]]
 
#(add your name here to vote)
 
 
 
People who vote for option 2:
 
 
 
#(add your name here to vote)
 
 
 
People who vote for option 3:
 
 
 
#(add your name here to vote)
 
 
 
 
 
[[Category:Meta Pages]]
 
[[Category:Discussion Pages]]
 

Latest revision as of 09:52, 9 January 2010

  • This wiki is generally for short summary-descriptions of frequently referenced concepts, and lists of links to the relevant posts on LW. Original content and long arguments should go in LW blog posts and the associated comment threads. The user is intended to bounce back and forth between the blog and the wiki, clicking on wiki links for quick explanations of concepts used in blog posts, and then digging further into the blog or wiki if not satisfied. The short summaries may freely refer to other concepts on the Wiki.
  • Wiki pages corresponding to individual articles or blog posts shouldn't generally be created. If an article introduces a relevant concept, a wiki page describing that concept and linking to the article may be created, but not a page for the article itself.
  • Original content that is best built by many users editing it can be an exception to the above rule, appearing on the Wiki instead of the blog - for example, a collaboratively edited poem, or a long list of posts with summaries in chronological order.
  • Our version of "notability" is how often a concept is referenced. If a concept is referenced in only one place then it does not need a wiki entry.
  • To guard against bit rot, wiki pages should be kept in a relatively good form at all times, even at stub stage. Don't leave unorganized content or poorly researched statements in the pages.
  • When linking to a series of relevant blog posts, a description (one sentence to one paragraph) of what relevant material the user can expect to find, will be helpful - if you see a list of relevant posts with no summaries, feel free to add them.
  • Any user of this Wiki can make obvious corrections to any other user's spelling and grammar, or to make existing words on any page into Wiki links, by using the [[ ]] marks, pointing to a page that already exists or is expected to exist eventually.
  • Any user may categorize any page by listing the names of the appropriate Category at the bottom of the page.
  • If there is a disagreement about which categories a page fits in, or about anything else related to a Wiki page, the disagreement can be discussed in the page's "talk" page. If unresolved, please contact an administrator to mediate or make a note on Lesswrongwiki:Disputes. A dispute can potentially be escalated to a blog post.

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