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(Work in progress. Suggestions appreciated.)
 
(Work in progress. Suggestions appreciated.)
 
What's happening in your reasoning brain:
 
* [[Arguments as soldiers]] (in brief)
 
* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/gw/politics_is_the_mindkiller/ Politics is the Mind-Killer] – "Politics is an important domain to which we should individually apply our rationality—but it's a terrible domain in which to learn rationality, or discuss rationality, unless all the discussants are already rational." & "it doesn't matter whether (you think) the [specific political party] really is at fault.  It's just better for the spiritual growth of the community to discuss the issue without invoking [http://lesswrong.com/lw/gt/a_fable_of_science_and_politics color politics]."
 
* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/gz/policy_debates_should_not_appear_onesided/ Policy Debates Should Not Appear One-Sided] – "there is no reason for complex actions with many consequences to exhibit this onesidedness property." "Two primary drivers of policy-one-sidedness are the [http://lesswrong.com/lw/lg/the_affect_heuristic/ affect heuristic] and the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_fallacy just-world fallacy]."
 
  
 
Social aspects of communication (or is that a tautology?):
 
Social aspects of communication (or is that a tautology?):
* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/1yz/levels_of_communication/ Levels of communication]
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* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/1yz/levels_of_communication/ '''Levels of communication''']
* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/1wu/reasoning_isnt_about_logic_its_about_arguing/ Reasoning isn't about logic (it's about arguing)]
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* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/1wu/reasoning_isnt_about_logic_its_about_arguing/ '''Reasoning isn't about logic (it's about arguing)''']
* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/hz/correspondence_bias/ Correspondence Bias] (also known as the fundamental attribution error) [[Correspondence bias|in brief on the wiki]])
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* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/hz/correspondence_bias/ '''Correspondence Bias'''] (also known as the fundamental attribution error) [[Correspondence bias|in brief on the wiki]])
* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/375/ask_and_guess/ Ask and Guess]
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* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/375/ask_and_guess/ '''Ask and Guess''']
* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/jis/tell_culture/ Tell Culture]
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* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/jis/tell_culture/ '''Tell Culture''']
  
Emotion and making sense:
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Emotion, making sense, and anticipating reactions:
* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/gw/politics_is_the_mindkiller/ Politics is the Mind-Killer]
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* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/gw/politics_is_the_mindkiller/ '''Politics is the Mind-Killer''']  – Avoiding emotional & tribal identity triggers. "Politics is an important domain to which we should individually apply our rationality—but it's a terrible domain in which to learn rationality, or discuss rationality, unless all the discussants are already rational." & "it doesn't matter whether (you think) the [specific political party] really is at fault.  It's just better for the spiritual growth of the community to discuss the issue without invoking [http://lesswrong.com/lw/gt/a_fable_of_science_and_politics color politics]."
* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/gz/policy_debates_should_not_appear_onesided/ Policy Debates Should Not Appear One-Sided] (discusses [[arguments as soldiers]])
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* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/gz/policy_debates_should_not_appear_onesided/ '''Policy Debates Should Not Appear One-Sided'''] – "there is no reason for complex actions with many consequences to exhibit this onesidedness property." "Two primary drivers of policy-one-sidedness are the [http://lesswrong.com/lw/lg/the_affect_heuristic/ affect heuristic] and the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_fallacy just-world fallacy]." Avoid using [[arguments as soldiers]].
* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/gm9/philosophical_landmines/ Philosophical Landmines]
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* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/gz/policy_debates_should_not_appear_onesided/ '''Policy Debates Should Not Appear One-Sided'''] (discusses [[arguments as soldiers]])
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* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/gm9/philosophical_landmines/ '''Philosophical Landmines'''] – "If something you say makes people go off on a spiral of bad philosophy, don't get annoyed with them, just fix what you say. This is just being a communications consequentialist."
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** Responding to a landmine explosion: It may be best to "abort the conversation." Alternatively, [http://lesswrong.com/lw/gm9/philosophical_landmines/8fc8 a commenter suggests], "stop taking sides and talk about the plus and minuses of each side."
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* (Something more about emotional triggers?)
  
 
Understanding and being understood:  
 
Understanding and being understood:  
* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/gm9/philosophical_landmines/ Philosophical Landmines] – "If something you say makes people go off on a spiral of bad philosophy, don't get annoyed with them, just fix what you say. This is just being a communications consequentialist."
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* Off-LW: [http://measureofdoubt.com/2012/06/11/be-a-communications-consequentialist/ '''Be a Communications Consequentialist'''], Jesse Galef.
** Responding to a landmine explosion: It may be best to "abort the conversation." Alternatively, [http://lesswrong.com/lw/gm9/philosophical_landmines/8fc8 a commenter suggests], "stop taking sides and talk about the plus and minuses of each side."
 
* Off-LW: [http://measureofdoubt.com/2012/06/11/be-a-communications-consequentialist/ Be a Communications Consequentialist], Jesse Galef.
 
 
* Inferential distance:
 
* Inferential distance:
** [[Inferential distance|in brief]]  
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** "a gap between the background knowledge and epistemology of a person trying to explain an idea, and the background knowledge and epistemology of the person trying to understand it." [[Inferential distance]] (LW wiki).
** [http://lesswrong.com/lw/kh/explainers_shoot_high_aim_low/ Explainers Shoot High. Aim Low!] – "we tend to enormously underestimate the effort required to properly explain things."
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** [http://lesswrong.com/lw/kh/explainers_shoot_high_aim_low/ '''Explainers Shoot High. Aim Low!'''] – "we tend to enormously underestimate the effort required to properly explain things."
** [http://lesswrong.com/lw/kg/expecting_short_inferential_distances/ Expecting Short Inferential Distances] (explaining in evolutionary terms why this is such a problem today)
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** [http://lesswrong.com/lw/kg/expecting_short_inferential_distances/ '''Expecting Short Inferential Distances'''] explaining in evolutionary terms why this is such a problem today.
  
 
Biases, heuristics and fallacies that affect communication:  
 
Biases, heuristics and fallacies that affect communication:  
 
* [[Illusion of transparency]]
 
* [[Illusion of transparency]]
* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/dr/generalizing_from_one_example/ Generalizing From One Example] (the [[Typical mind fallacy]])
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* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/dr/generalizing_from_one_example/ '''Generalizing From One Example'''] (the [[Typical mind fallacy]])
* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/lj/the_halo_effect/ The Halo Effect] – "You should be suspicious if the people you know seem to separate too cleanly into devils and angels."
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* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/lj/the_halo_effect/ '''The Halo Effect'''] – "You should be suspicious if the people you know seem to separate too cleanly into devils and angels."
  
 
Disagreeing:  
 
Disagreeing:  
* In brief:
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* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/85h/better_disagreement/ '''Better Disagreement''']
** [http://lesswrong.com/lw/85h/better_disagreement/ Better Disagreement] (in brief on the wiki: [[Steel man]])
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** Related: [[Steel man]] (in brief on the wiki). [[wikipedia: Principle of charity|Principle of charity]] (Wikipedia). [http://lesswrong.com/lw/kzs/unpopular_ideas_attract_poor_advocates_be/ Unpopular ideas attract poor advocates: Be charitable]. [http://lesswrong.com/lw/jhb/dangers_of_steelmanning_principle_of_charity/ Dangers of steelmanning / principle of charity].
** [[wikipedia: Principle of charity]]. Related: [http://lesswrong.com/lw/kzs/unpopular_ideas_attract_poor_advocates_be/ Unpopular ideas attract poor advocates: Be charitable]
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** [[wikipedia: Ideological Turing Test|'''Ideological Turing Test''']] (Wikipedia). First described(?) at [http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2011/06/the_ideological.html http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2011/06/the_ideological.html] by Bryan Caplan. (As Mill states, "He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that.") Also see: [http://noahpinionblog.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/against-ideological-turing-test.html Noahpinion: Against the Ideological Turing Test]. Related: [http://lesswrong.com/lw/gpl/imitation_is_the_sincerest_form_of_argument/ Imitation is the Sincerest Form of Argument]
** [http://lesswrong.com/lw/jhb/dangers_of_steelmanning_principle_of_charity/ Dangers of steelmanning / principle of charity]
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* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/e95/the_noncentral_fallacy_the_worst_argument_in_the/ '''The noncentral fallacy - the worst argument in the world?'''] (e.g. "Martin Luther King was a criminal!")
* Off-LW: [[wikipedia: Ideological Turing Test]]. First described(?) at [http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2011/06/the_ideological.html http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2011/06/the_ideological.html] by Bryan Caplan. (As Mill states, "He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that.") Also see: [http://noahpinionblog.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/against-ideological-turing-test.html Noahpinion: Against the Ideological Turing Test]. Related: [http://lesswrong.com/lw/gpl/imitation_is_the_sincerest_form_of_argument/ Imitation is the Sincerest Form of Argument]
 
* [http://lesswrong.com/lw/e95/the_noncentral_fallacy_the_worst_argument_in_the/ The noncentral fallacy - the worst argument in the world?] (e.g. "Martin Luther King was a criminal!")
 
  
Online communication (for further exploration)
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Online communication (for further exploration):
 
* Text-based communication
 
* Text-based communication
 
* Dealing with trolls
 
* Dealing with trolls

Revision as of 10:37, 8 December 2014

Me in brief:

  • I coach people in clearing anger, bitterness & other negative emotions. I'm keen to be evidence-based about this, but in this field, evidence is often fuzzy, and experience is an important guide.
  • I've worked in sustainability knowledge-sharing.
  • I know about wikis, and help run Appropedia, the sustainability wiki.

A communication sequence

(Work in progress. Suggestions appreciated.)

Social aspects of communication (or is that a tautology?):

Emotion, making sense, and anticipating reactions:

  • Politics is the Mind-Killer – Avoiding emotional & tribal identity triggers. "Politics is an important domain to which we should individually apply our rationality—but it's a terrible domain in which to learn rationality, or discuss rationality, unless all the discussants are already rational." & "it doesn't matter whether (you think) the [specific political party] really is at fault. It's just better for the spiritual growth of the community to discuss the issue without invoking color politics."
  • Policy Debates Should Not Appear One-Sided – "there is no reason for complex actions with many consequences to exhibit this onesidedness property." "Two primary drivers of policy-one-sidedness are the affect heuristic and the just-world fallacy." Avoid using arguments as soldiers.
  • Policy Debates Should Not Appear One-Sided (discusses arguments as soldiers)
  • Philosophical Landmines – "If something you say makes people go off on a spiral of bad philosophy, don't get annoyed with them, just fix what you say. This is just being a communications consequentialist."
    • Responding to a landmine explosion: It may be best to "abort the conversation." Alternatively, a commenter suggests, "stop taking sides and talk about the plus and minuses of each side."
  • (Something more about emotional triggers?)

Understanding and being understood:

Biases, heuristics and fallacies that affect communication:

Disagreeing:

Online communication (for further exploration):

  • Text-based communication
  • Dealing with trolls

Dealing with negative emotions

(Againstness, noticing)